House to vote on "Murtha Resolution"
Techniguy 11-18-2005 5:45 pm

Within the hour, the House of Representatives will be voting on whether or not to withdraw all US troops from Iraq. The resolution to be voted on is being called the Murtha Resolution after the Pennsylvania Democrat, Rep. John Murtha abruptly called for an immediate U.S. pull out.

This morning, Rep. J. D. Hayworth (R) said he has had enough and on House floor, demanded that this issue be put to an immediate vote by all House and Senate members. Enough of these public statements to the press, says Hayworth, let put every representative of the people on record right now as being for surrender and withdrawal from Iraq, or as being in support of our troops and their mission.

Hayworth has put every "cut and run" Democrat on the spot to be held accountable for their public statements and to be put on record in regards to their stand on the War on Terror, now being fought in Iraq. No more BS in the media, everyone will now be on public record as either supporting our troops or abandoning them and their mission.

Murtha, yesterday, stated that "US Troops are more and more becoming the primary target of insurgents". This is simply not true. Today, 80 people were killed by insurgents/terrorists in 3 suicide bombings. No Americans were killed. 2 of the attacks took place in Mosques in Northeast Iraq. Does Murtha think terrorists were expecting the mosques to be filled with American GIs?

Murtha, who served in Vietnam, was awarded a Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts. Ever since John Kerry ran for president, I guess a Bronze Star and a couple of Purple Hearts makes one a "war hero", because that is what they are now calling Murtha. They think that by sighting his 'Kerry like' metals, that will give his opposition to the war more creditability. Did it make John Kerry more credible? Calling for America to cut and run from Iraq clearly shows that either Democrats like Murtha don't understand the war or it's objectives, or they are adamantly opposed to America winning the war.

Iraq has now developed two constitutions and about to have their third free election to elect permanent members of their own self made government. Neither tyrants, nor terrorists rule Iraq today, but rather elected officials of the people. American and Iraqi troops have cleared most of the country of foreign and domestic terrorists and insurgents. Al Qaeda is in a steep decline in the country yet Democrats now want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. At the moment, the House is in recess but just before recess had debated whether a bill can legally be voted on in the same day it is introduced which amounts to no more than a delay tactic by Democrats to try to avoid the real vote. When they return from recess, the debate and vote will take place and will be a landmark vote that will stand for the next 3 years.  Current tv House coverage is on C-SPAN 


Republicans Distorting Murtha's Position?

Techniguy 11-18-2005

Democrats on the House floor, including Nancy Pelosi, condemned President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and congressional Republicans accusing them of distorting and misrepresenting what Murtha said. Since his first statements yesterday, House Democrats have been trying to soften Murtha's message and change it into something more like a 6 month withdrawal, but that's not what Murtha said, and he said it again tonight on the floor of the House. "Immediate redeployment".  Criticism of Murtha's position is being characterized by Pelosi and others as a shameful personal attack on the Congressman from Pennsylvania.  Every time Republicans defend themselves and their policies, it's a shameful and despicable personal attack on Democrats, but when Democrats do it, as they have been daily for the past 3 years, it's just free speech.  They can dish it out but they can't take it.  

“It is time for a change in direction,” said Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., one of Congress’ most hawkish Democrats. “Our military is suffering; the future of our country is at risk. We cannot continue on the present course. It is evident that continued military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the Iraqi people or the Persian Gulf region.”

"Our military has accomplished its mission and done its duty," Murtha said Thursday. "The war in Iraq is not going as advertised. It is a flawed policy wrapped in illusion."

"We cannot continue on the present course," Murtha said Thursday. "Our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency. It's time to bring them home."

Murtha went on to say "We must put the Iraqi government on notice that upon their December election, American troops must immediately re-deploy, immediately re-deploy!" Murtha also supports the reinstatement of the Draft.

See video of Murtha here

Since Murtha and "white flag" Democrats like to talk but don't have the courage to bring a House Resolution to the floor for a vote on Iraq, so Rep. Duncan Hunter and House Republicans did it for them. Democrats say this resolution (HR-571) does not reflect what Murtha was saying. It does not reflect exactly the plan that Murtha has drawn up, it is much shorter and to the point, but the end result is the same... Immediate Troop Withdrawal from Iraq.

For Dennis Kucinich and other white flag waving liberals, this is their big chance to put their vote on record for all to see, and take their stand on cutting and running from Iraq before the mission is completed. The Congressional Record will show exactly who in congress supports our troops and their mission and who doesn't. It will show who in Congress understands the need and reasons for this war on terrorists and who doesn't And it will certainly show who in Congress has the will to win and the wisdom and intelligence to justify reelection by taking our national security and the defeat of the enemy seriously, and who doesn't.

A heated debate is going on now on the House floor prior to the vote. Republicans are explaining the need for the troops to be allowed to complete their mission, while John Murtha is reading Cindy Sheehan type letters from military moms and reciting Democrat talking points about their being no plan or progress in Iraq. He seems like a pretty nice guy though, maybe too nice to understand the sometimes need for war to preserve and promote freedom.

The vote on Hunter's Resolution has just been put to a voice vote. The House has unanimously voted against the resolution and a call for individual recorded votes has been called for. The first few minutes of recorded votes are showing that the vote is not entirely unanimous, showing about 100 to 1 against the resolution. This is pretty much what I expected. Only the radical left like Kucinich, and apparently one Republican has voted for the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq. This is reminiscent of the vote on the Charlie Rangel resolution to reinstate the draft last year. Few antiwar Democrats have the courage to go on record as supporting this withdrawal. Later on, when they again start up their "bring the troops home" rhetoric, they will be directed to the Congressional Record and asked "why didn't you vote for it when you had the chance?" The record will show conclusively that all but 3 members of the House support the President in seeing the war through to victory. Hopefully, this will put an end to this debate, which was the whole purpose of it in the first place.